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What Does a Woman Have to Do to Be Believed? Sexual Assault, Accountability & Double Standards with E. Jean Carroll | 363

What Does a Woman Have to Do to Be Believed? Sexual Assault, Accountability & Double Standards with E. Jean Carroll | 363

Update: 2025-11-19
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When a powerful man says, “She’s not my type,” and a jury (actually, multiple juries) finds that man liable for sexual abuse and defamation, that’s not just a headline — that’s a masterclass in what it takes for a woman to be believed in America.


In this episode, writer, journalist, and Not My Type: One Woman vs. a President author E. Jean Carroll joins Nicole to talk about truth, power, paperclips, and what actually happens when you drag a president into court and win. Twice.


We talk about the facts, the stories we build around those facts, and why so many people will twist themselves into a pretzel to excuse powerful men while shredding women who speak up.


We get into:




  • What actually happened in court — beyond the headlines, hot takes, and Twitter warriors




  • How clothes became her armor and why what she wore in court mattered more than you’d think




  • The “not my type” moment, the infamous deposition photo, and how Trump accidentally proved his own lie




  • Why her sexual history was dragged into the trial — and how she took back that narrative with joy




  • Trauma responses, laughter in the dressing room, and why “if you didn’t scream it doesn’t count” is garbage




  • How mock juries forced her legal team to reckon with ageism, beauty standards, and who we think is “believable”




  • What she plans to do with the tens of millions awarded in damages — and why giving it away is part of her resistance strategy




  • The big questions this case raises: What does a woman have to do to be believed? And what does a powerful man have to do to be held accountable? 




Because this isn’t just E. Jean Carroll’s story. It’s a mirror held up to how we treat women, power, and truth — and a reminder that one 80-something woman can still change the story for all of us.




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Connect with E Jean:


Book: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/not-my-type-9781250381682/


Substack: https://ejeancarroll.substack.com/


IG: https://www.instagram.com/ejeancarroll1/ 


X: https://x.com/ejeancarroll?lang=en



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What Does a Woman Have to Do to Be Believed? Sexual Assault, Accountability & Double Standards with E. Jean Carroll | 363

What Does a Woman Have to Do to Be Believed? Sexual Assault, Accountability & Double Standards with E. Jean Carroll | 363

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